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DroneHoax.com - David Biedny & Jeff Ritzman
Comments On Drone Hoax

Reply posted on 30-5-2007 @ 01:08 PM by Jeff Ritzmann

However, David Biedny and I have both unequivocally stated these (Drone) photos are faked,
just so it's clear for everyone's perspective.

Back in May of (2007) The Paracast broadcast their regular podcast with Gene Steinberg & David Biedny, on it they covered the California Drone Flap. This was a fairly discreet offering and passed under the radar of a lot of people who are interested in the Drones. Proponents of the Drones are quick to shout that no known professional digital image analysts are willing to go on record with any kind of judgement regarding the images, well enter David Biedny, as far as expert analysts go they don't come with credentials much more impeccable than Biedny's!!

"David Biedny is the President & Technical Director of IDIG, Inc. he is a leading digital effects, graphics and multimedia expert. His writing, educational efforts, multimedia and special effects work have enjoyed global exposure. He is considered by many longtime industry players to be one of the technical and creative pioneers of personal computer-based multimedia.

Biedny was formerly President and Technical Director of Incredible Interactivity Inc., a pioneering New York based firm which created multimedia projects and products for companies such as General Motors, Knoll International, Apple Computer, HBO, American Express, The American International Group and AT&T, among others. In recent years, he has participated as a project director/interface designer/consultant for a variety of CD-ROM/software projects, including BeInfinite Infinite FX(TM) for Adobe Illustrator (special effects plug-in product, first commercially shipping plug-in for Illustrator in the U.S.), Penthouse Interactive (Project Director), The Haight-Ashbury in the Sixties! CD-ROM (Biedny is a technical advisor for Rockument, Inc ., the publisher) and Quantum Gate I and II (Biedny is on the advisory board of Hyperbole Studios ).

Biedny has also been a key interface/feature consultant/beta tester for many of the major multimedia tools currently on the market. His involvement with computer graphics includes participating as a feature and interface consultant for key applications such as ImageStudio (the first mass market digital retouching software for the Macintosh platform), PixelPaint, ColorStudio (Biedny conceived the Shapes vector graphics capabilities unique to that product), Altamira Composer (which was acquired by Microsoft) and Photoshop (David was user #4, spec'd many of the key features of the product, and was included in the credits for Photoshop 1.0). Most recently, David conceived of the name for Eric Wenger's ArtMatic texture generation and animation software. David was also a seed site for the original Power Macintosh computer, and has been credited with helping conceive of the "Power Macintosh" name. David is an Adobe Certified Expert in Photoshop, and IDIG is an Adobe Authorized Training Provider.

Other technology consulting clients also include Landor Associates, LucasArts Entertainment, Microsoft, Broderbund Software, Ressmeyer Starlight (Roger Ressmeyer is the world's leading space photographer) and Kraft Robot. IDIG is also involved in designing graphics for a variety of WWW pages, including the infamous Surfing Monkey site and Chuck Farnham's Weird World (both recently taken offline), among others. IDIG has also recently produced graphics and processed digital imagery for the McGuire Real Estate web site, one of the larger real estate agents in the Bay area.

Biedny was a founding editor of MacUser and Macintosh Today, formerly a Contributing Editor for MacWorld , New Media and the Macromedia User Journal and, and has written for Windows Sources, ID, MacUser, MacWeek, The New Media Showcase, Morph's Outpost on the Digital Frontier and Computer Graphics World, among others. He co-authored, with Bert Monroy, the award winning, best selling Official Adobe Photoshop Handbook , published by Bantam/Random House, as well as Adobe Photoshop: A Visual Guide (published by Addison-Wesley). His newest book, Photoshop Channel Chops (co-authored with collaborators Bert Monroy and Nathan Moody), is published by New Riders Publishing. He is currently producing a leading Photoshop video series, Photoshop Inside & OutT , and is hosting the definitive Photoshop web portal, Photoshop Central .

He has taught Interactive Multimedia Design and Advanced Imaging for the MFA program of the School of Visual Arts in Manhattan, and rejoined the faculty in the spring of 1993 as an ISDN-based TeleTeacher from his Marin home. Recently a faculty member of the San Francisco State University Multimedia Studies Program, Biedny has been a top-rated lecturer and speaker at the Kodak Center for Creative Imaging, Seybold Seminars, Stanford University, UCSC Multimedia Extensions Program, Pratt, MacWorld and NCGA, among others."

IDIG - Personnel (David Biedny)

After reading the above I'm sure you can appreciate that David Biedny is possibly one of the most qualified people around today regarding digital imaging and so his opinion undoubtedly carries more weight than your average hobbyist and indeed more than the vast majority of professionals.

David Biedny has been interested in the hard science aspects of the paranormal world since youth, and especially due to his formative years spent in Caracas, Venezuela . He has personally witnessed the range of the absurd to the truly unexplainable in the realm of paranormal phenomenon, and these experiences have forged the foundation of his curiosity and desire to uncover the truth of the limitations of our knowledge of the wondrous possibilities of nature and the Universe.

Jeff Ritzmann is a trusted UFO and paranormal investigator (and experiencer) who has worked with The History Channel, as well as the TV series Sightings, Jeff is recognized as one of the best photo/video analysts in the field today, being tapped for cases by the likes of NARCAP and the popular dot com, Above Top Secret. He is currently working on a book detailing his lifetime of paranormal experiences.

(Bio from 2008 Culture of Contact Festival Where Jeff is a speaker, October 16-18, 2008).

Reply posted on 30-5-2007 @ 01:08 PM by Jeff Ritzmann

However David Biedny and I have both unequivocally stated these (Drone) photos are faked, just so it's clear for everyone's perspective.

David Biedny posted a comment at the ATS forum (3rd May 2008) on the Drone thread stating that:

"I'm one of the people who instantly saw that these images were fakes, CG elements composited onto photographic background plates. Jeff Ritzmann & I could immediately tell that the first image was a total fake, and the silly story from "Chad" made if painfully clear that this was all nonsense, perhaps perpetrated by C2C & LMH in order to drum up some traffic and interest. Subsequent images were increasingly more ridiculous. From the fact that these images don't match up to any morphology we've seen in over 60 years of publicly reported UFO sightings, to the childish typefaces, the obvious rendered look of the "craft", the lighting mismatch between the CG element and the background plates, what more do you need?"

Reply posted on 14-5-2007 @ 07:27 PM by David Biedny

We do indeed discuss these FAKE images with Jeff Ritzmann on the Paracast, the show that aired yesterday, and as I've mentioned previously on this thread (as well as Jeff), these images are fabricated. What more does anyone need to know about them? It's a hoax.

Seriously - the quality of these images is nothing to write home - it's the work of a decent hobbyist.

What amazes me is that people on here continue to debate the veracity of these things, as if there was something compelling in them. Boggles my mind.

[START QUESTION] The scaling anomaly can be explained easily. What if there are two crafts of different sizes? Second, why would an artist so skilled in CG, completely miss the so obvious scaling error? This is a strong argument against it being CG and favors my stand of it being a constructed model. [END QUESTION]

Reply posted on 15-5-2007 @ 12:05 PM by Jeff Ritzmann

Thats a stretch to explain the scaling differences in Chad 's pics. He mentions NOTHING about 2 different sized UOs. I'm no mind reader, I only have the pics and his words.

I also dont see anything "so skilled" about this. Could it be a kitbashed model? I dont believe so.
If it is, what model kits are pieced out to build it.

The underside's uneven small fins look very much to me like uneven booleaning and thats also not an uncommon error.

Reply posted by Jeff Ritzmann

You're absolutely right. I've told David on the phone several times, thats it's getting to the point where the ability to fake photos is getting nearly level to the ability that we have to detect them.

Hence, thats why you have to know more then digital imaging and manipulation- Light, shadow, angles, color, perspective, etc etc.

There will always be though, some tell-tale signs that will be inescapable.

Reply posted on 14-5-2007 @ 10:59 AM by Jeff Ritzmann

Guys ya only need to look at one thing. The scale, or supposed scale of the object. Someone said here "how can ya fit living beings in there, it's so small" or something to that effect. Well he's right, it looks relatively small.

But look at the C2C pic set where we have it going over trees (partially behind) and it appears HUGE.

That doesnt jive man. At all. Thats the biggest reason I just dont buy it. Couple that with the sketchy story and alt/aurabesh lettering and it gets ever further out for me.

But thats just what I see. You guys have to make up your own minds.

Source/s: ATS Forums & Paracast Forums

Posted on 30-5-2007 @ 01:08 PM by Jeff Ritzmann

However David Biedny and I have both unequivocally stated these (Drone) photos are faked, just so it's clear for everyone's perspective.

Paracast - David Biedny & Jeff Ritzmann
On why they believe the 2007 Californian Drones are hoax.

Posted on 14-5-2007 @ 07:27 PM by David Biedny

We do indeed discuss these FAKE images with Jeff Ritzmann on the Paracast, the show that aired yesterday, and as I've mentioned previously on this thread (as well as Jeff), these images are fabricated. What more does anyone need to know about them? It's a hoax.